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The way Standard Life have treated Meg is at best probably unlawful. Giving away a Pension Fund with little or no verification is beyond belief. You have got to hand it to Standard Life though, they must be the only insurance company in existence that pays out without a 'quibble' !!!!!
I wonder if they would apply the same cavalier attitude to paying out when your roof got blown off in a storm ... as it is their money they would have to pay out then no doubt it would be a different story... Act of God or some other excuse and then they would take 6 months to make a decision. But if it is YOUR money they hold then they throw it to anyone who asks. over 2 years ago via web
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UPDATE to the story on Meg whose pension was given away to someone else by STANDARD LIFE. Meg's lawyer has now read the full rules of the Standard Life pension plan which Standard Life only sent on request 2 days ago.
The lawyer is in no doubt that it is a pension as also defined by Dutch pension legislation under which her Marriage Contract was drawn up. ( Meg was married in Holland as they lived there at the time). Therefore under both the notarised Will and her Dutch Marriage contract Meg should have been the recipient of this pension. Standard Life had no moral or legal right to give her pension payment ( £70,000) to another member of her ex-husbands family instead and without her knowledge. A family member, incidentally, who was not even mentioned in the will as a beneficiary of anything.
Standard Life are using the 'discretionary payments' clause to excuse and justify the fact that they gave Meg's pension to the wrong person. A pension which she contributed to for 17 years of her marriage. Standard Life did this without making any checks whatsoever to see if there was a Will or to even request a solicitors letter. Meg now has No pension.
If you would like to support Meg in her fight to get her pension back from Standard Life please join the 'Pensions at Standard Life Quiet Riot'. Thanks for your support.
And remember, if there is a 'discretionary clause' in your pension or life insurance payment, don't let an 'adminstrator' at Standard Life make the same mistake with your pension that they did in Meg's case. Perhaps its time to change this legislation once and for all. over 2 years ago via web
Thanks for the update. Still waiting to hear back from my contacts (er, my father!) about plugging into the Pension activists' network. But I think this is truly the biggest outrage on Quiet Riots at the moment.
Watch out for the smear...
"Controversy
[edit]Smear campaign
In January 2006, Standard Life were accused of smearing a policy-holder, Michael Hogan, who was not happy with the way the company was being run. An e-mail sent to Standard Life executives and advisors (which was disclosed under the Data Protection Act) revealed an attempt to discredit him.[9]
[edit]Racism
In January 2007, the head of Standard Life's life and pensions business, Trevor Matthews, used the phrase "nigger in the woodpile" while giving a presentation at one of the company's Edinburgh offices. After issuing an apology, Mr Matthews remained in his job and no disciplinary action was taken, although he subsequently resigned his position. He is now working for Friends Provident. [10]
[edit]Job cuts
In March 2007 the company announced it would cut 1,000 jobs in an attempt to save an additional £100 million per year in costs[1]. One month later it was highlighted in the company's annual report that three of Standard Life's top executives (Sandy Crombie, Keith Skeoch and Trevor Matthews) were awarded more than £5 million in pay.[11] A Standard Life spokesman defended the awards, citing the leadership's efforts in turning round the company's fortunes.[11]
[edit]Data loss
In May 2007, Standard Life sent a small number of policy documents out to the wrong customers. Around 300 people had their personal and financial details made public, causing fears of identity theft.[12] The company pledged to step up security procedures after the error. No action was taken by the FSA.[12]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Life#Controversy
One day we'll have our own "awards scheme" I hope.
"Award for swiftest response to rectify an obvious outrage" perhaps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-YVmpw_VFA over 2 years ago via web
Standard Life's procedures need a really big shake-up. How about the novel idea of a 'check-list' to assist their 'discretion', when paying out a policy on the strength of just a telephone call - which is exactly what they did. Something really innovative like 1) Ask for a Solicitors letter. 2) Ask if there is a will.
3). Ask for copy of the Will.
4) Ask for proof that the person making the claim has the legal right to do so. 5) Ask for some proof of identity. etc.etc..
The point is they did none of those things. And when the rightful beneficiary did contact them, with paperwork and proof galore, they said it was "Too late, sorry, we've paid it to someone else". They positively crowed about how it was 'up to their discretion' to do this. Quite sickening. over 2 years ago via web
Meg has my full support. I sincerely hope that Quiet Riots can help to resolve this very upsetting situation. over 2 years ago via web
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I am the friend Scotty writes about in his story about Standard Life. I have just added a comment to his story, but thought I would share this as a direct experience with you as well.
Not only did my ex-husband make clear in his Will what his wishes regarding his pension were, my entitlement to them are also enshrined in our Marriage Contract, as well as under Dutch law (I am Dutch, and we lived in Holland when we got married). All our pensions were built up during our marriage.
Standard Life's decision to pay the £70.000 to a family member of my ex-husband's, was made without my knowledge (I was still trying to arrange his cremation in France, which is where he passed away), without requiring any further documentation, and without any investigation into my ex-husband's actual circumstances. They did not check whether there was a Will, or any directions as to what my ex-husband himself wanted to happen with HIS money. They did not check whether he had (for instance) re-married, or even had any children. Absolutely nothing. They simply took this family member's word for everything, asked for no proof whatsoever, and subsequently have made it perfectly clear that they do not care at all that this person was lying.
They paid out within weeks of my ex-husband's passing away, weeks before he had even been cremated.
This has resulted in the fact that I now have NO pension at all, apart from what I may be able to get together in state pensions. And ALL Standard Life has managed to do, is to cowardly hide behind their 'discretionary payments' clause. It is cowardly and shaming, and it ought to be criminal as well. And yes, they should be boycotted for who and what they are.
We shall see what the Pensions Advisory Service has to say about it. I have had to employ the services of a Dutch solicitor to help me fight this fight, which comes at a great financial cost.
Personally speaking, however, it truly is hard enough for me that my ex-husband (with whom I was very close) has passed away, without having to fight for a pension I myself worked for too, and which ought to be legally mine. over 2 years ago via web
I'm glad you found the courage to share this experience on Quiet Riots as I know how hard this must have been for you. It is a total disgrace that Standard Life have behaved in this way. I hope they will redress their error as soon as possible otherwise I, for one, will be taking my pensions and insurances elsewhere. I'm sure I will not be the only one. over 2 years ago via web
Unbelievable! What a warning to others - avoid companies like this at all costs. Hilsey over 2 years ago via web
Meg's experience is sickening. Robbed of her pension through Standard Life's negligence. People should be made aware of such malpractice and I am going to post Meg's story to my network of clients, friends and relatives. Bon courage Meg! over 2 years ago via web
Meg, I find that almost impossible to believe that they could be so crass. I do not understand how the pension can be passed to another family member without reference to a Will or Dependent Pension Nomination.
I hesitate to admit that I am a shareholder of Standard Life. In the light of this issue that does not make me proud. I hope that QR will be able to assist you in resolving this very difficult situation. over 2 years ago via web
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This case was initially referred to the Financial Ombudsman Service in London. They replied in September with a letter stating " complaints like these are more appropriately dealt wth by the Pensions Ombudsman. However the Pensions Ombudsman requires The Pensions Advisory Service (TPAS) to try to resolve the matter first. I have therefore sent your complaint to TPAS who will get in touch with you. If TPAS cannot resolve your complaint, they will tell you if you can refer your complaint to the Pensions Ombudsman. Otherwise please come back to us and we will see if there is any other way we can help".
Kafka is obviously alive and well and working in the Ombudsman service !!! We await further developments. over 2 years ago via web
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If anyone has a Pension policy or Life insurance with Standard Life, please be aware that your Policy can be paid out to the wrong person on the whim of Standard Life. They can do this by using the 'discretionary payment' clause. By discretionary, it means that some clerk at Standard Life will use THEIR discretion to decide who to pay YOUR money to, without checking any details, without checking to see if there is a will, without even asking for a solicitors letter !
Irresponsible use of this clause on the part of Standard Life has already resulted in someone losing a pension which should have been paid to them. A friend recently lost a £70,000 pension payment which had been left to her in her husbands Will, because Standard Life paid it to someone else instead. Standard Life have flatly refused to correct their mistake claiming that it was up to their discretion who to pay it to. What right did Standard Life have to do this, and what right did they have to completely ignore the wishes of the Policy holder who had entrusted his money to them?. When we entrust our money to companies like Standard Life, we assume that in the event of our death the correct beneficiary will automatically receive the policy benefits, but this is obviously not the case. This matter has now been passed to the Ombudsman.. But please, everyone, if you have a policy with Standard Life, be aware that you risk it being paid to the wrong person on the whim of a Standard Life clerk. Anyone who has a policy which contains a 'discretionary payment' clause is at risk, so check it out now. If anyone wants more information about this particular case I will be happy to provide it.
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This seems against anything resembling natural justice. over 2 years ago via web
Can you tell me which Ombudsman? over 2 years ago via web
Further to my posting about Standard Life paying a pension to the wrong person. This case was initially referred to the Financial Ombudsman Service in London. They replied in September with a letter stating " complaints like these are more appropriately dealt wth by the Pensions Ombudsman. However the Pensions Ombudsman requires The Pensions Advisory Service (TPAS) to try to resolve the matter first. I have therefore sent your complaint to TPAS who will get in touch with you. If TPAS cannot resolve your complaint, they will tell you if you can refer your complaint to the Pensions Ombudsman. Otherwise please come back to us and we will see if there is any other way we can help".
Kafka is obviously alive and well and working in the Ombudsman service !!! We await further developments. over 2 years ago via web
It goes without saying that this is a completely outrageous. There ought to be a boycott against Standard Life. over 2 years ago via web
Dear Meg,
are you really saying that Standard Life paid out part of the inheritance without proper legal authorisation for it and without checking what was stated in the legally binding will of your late husband?
And that Standard Life, when confronted with what appears to be a blatantly stupid action, took full responsibility for it by waving a "discreationary payment clause" in your face?
Quite unusual for a civilised company, I would say.
Standard Life should put things right for you as soon as this trouble with the will is sorted out, first by paying you what should be paid to you, and secondly by reclaiming the money that was paid to the "other people". Who are if I may add, of questionable moral standards.
John over 2 years ago via web
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Good point,Cuckmere. Standard Life should have a new slogan " Standard Life, the Giving Insurer - we give your money away to anyone who asks for it". Other ideas for slogans welcome. And many thanks for your support ! over 2 years ago via web